BODY OF 9 ® - Key Persons


Jamie Hawley

Jamie Hawley, Natural Number 5, is our digital marketing, website, and partner manager. In a world where technology is always changing Jamie uses her NN5 talents to find solutions and make plans to be successful on all platforms. She enjoys the art that "words" create and understands how to communicate effectively to reach all nine different kinds of people. Jamie is also a Body of 9 Practicing Partner and attends events with Susan & Martin to observe and identify the Natural Numbers of attendees. "As a marketing professional, it is my ultimate goal to understand and anticipate what others are thinking / needing. I was identified as a Natural Number 5 in 2019 and it has been life-changing ever since. It has provided me with the validation I have been searching for, and it has made me truly love myself." -Jamie

Martin Fisher

Martin Fish er has been mapping his framework of human knowledge since he first learned to read. Born in the United Kingdom, he attended the University of Manchester, obtaining a degree in Computation. Martin worked at Oracle and Yahoo from 19 85-2000 and then, ran his own technical and managerial/business consulting firm. He turned his lifelong passion for aviation into a career by gai ning his Air Transport Pilot's license and spen ding four years flying corporate jets around the globe for rockstars and politicians. After learning that he had Natural Number 5 in 2007, Martin realiz ed that his new role was to help others to understand Body of 9 as a context that empowers us to live more richly and authentically. Combin ing big-picture pe rspective with a keen awareness of our physical and spiritual nature s, Martin has the rare ability to make intuitive leaps to decode and understand the Natural Numbers' future implications and manifestations. Martin partners with Susan to take Body of 9 into the world.

Susan Bennett Fisher

Susan Bennett Fisher has been a lifelong student of personal transformation. She obtain ed her degree in Mathematical Economics from Brown University, and her MBA/MA in Finance and International Management from the Lauder Institute at the Wharton School of Business. She then pursued a career in management consulting, high-tech marketing, finance and operations in Silicon Valley. Despite her ach iev ements, this career did not feed Susan's need for a deeper knowing of her purpose, nor did it yield any real sense of fulfillment. When Susan's Natural Number 6 was first activated at the Coaches Training Institute's Leadership Program in 2002, she knew she had found her purpose. She has continued as a pioneer in the study and research into the 9 Natural Numbers, which has led to many new discoveries and a deeper understanding of the importance, power and impact of Body of 9. An experienced speaker and teacher, Susan is on-staff at the Esalen Institute in Big Sur and has presented at events and conferences around the world, including Burning Man, the Spoken Word Stage, Envision Conference in Norway, and the Montana Mind, Body, Soul Conference. Body of 9 is Susan's true calling and passion and she has dedicated her life to understanding and teaching about this extraordinary discovery.